Varget or h4895 for 223. Sierra MatchKing bullets and Varget, the groups open up.

Varget or h4895 for 223 Jun 29, 2009 #10 Y. Both of these loads shoot very well for me. Varget can burn pretty dirty until it gets up to reasonable pressures. com. 30-06. Results were NOT what I would have guessed Thought about some CFE 223, but as I have 20 lbs of H335 in my cabinet, didnt figure I needed to change for 55gr 223 and 150gr FMJs and down in 308. Jun 3, 2010 658 2 56 Washington, Kitsap County. Forget the ball powders. In a 223 there is no reason why any of the 4895 powders, that is IMR, AA2495, and H4895 will not produce outstanding accuracy. The twist is 1 in 9". 0grs/2731 fps 52. 2 (C) of IMR4895 delivering 3219 FPS and 26. 751 $ 54. R15 will work also. 223 is capable of. 223 rem 55 grain bullets? I've been loading 55 grain amax, SP or those cheap midway dogtown bullets over 25. I have tried a bunch of different powders in . 5 grains of powder at 2. Shooting a 20 inch 1-9 twist bolt gun,have varget,h4895 Imr8208xbr and benchmark on hand,just wondering what powders youve had good luck with Search Everywhere Threads This forum This thread N140 should be fine for shooters that load to the next slower node. I only use 75 gr Hornady HPBT-M and Sierra 80 gr MatchKings. Minuteman. Also with the 69 sierra, the Varget, N140 and RE15 data is pretty much interchangeable. Save Share Reply Quote Like. I consider these maximums so start lower. Some friends with long throated versions are running quite a bit hotter loads then me. You never know. I have been using TAC experimenting with cast 223 and have run across several threads that point out H4895 / IMR 4895 as preferable. I have used two powders for heavy bullets in 223 - TAC and Varget. Rustydust Active member. 5gr H4895. With the 75 grainers I use 23. In 308 Varget is hard to beat though. IMR describes IMR 4320 as follows: Short Ramshot Tac, ASA2520, IMR8208XBR, Varget, RL-15, H4895. Any of these will fit the bill just fine. 223 55gr-69gr meters well Varget or H4895 works for me! Muttt Sergeant. None of the three are available in this area and haven't been for a N140 and H4895 were used to try and push the 75grn heads through a 1. ShootDots. I have heard good things about Benchmark and BL-C2 but have no experience with either. 0grs/2551 fps 43. I'm wanting to weed out varget. Varget with the RCBS Chargemaster and H335 with a powder thrower. 5 grains of h4895 in both my ar-15 and my bolt gun. All three of my . Any thought, pet loads? This thread is archived Varget N135 H4895 IMR 3031 RL15 (mostly old I believe the H4895 shot just as tight of a group in the LTR and POF with 60 grain Vmax. 4grs/2756 fps 70. RE-15 VihtaVuori N140 Varget H4895 IMR-8208-XBR are all known accuracy looking for some help with starting loads for a Knight SR15 LRP rifle in 5. The loads listed above are Max loads. Lee #4. Hellgate Member. 75 MOA at 100 yds with a 69 gr match bullet and either Varget or H4895 . 223 and will allow you to use them in both calibers. 0grs H4895 and 55gr bullets are all I shoot in my . They work better in . N133 and N135 are also very good. These are from a 24" test barrel. 55gr Hornady FMJ? 26. Depending on bullet weight, Benchmark through Varget burn rates have worked best for me. I know benchmark works well for 55 223 and 150 308s so that is my powder for that at the moment. I. I'm not giving up on TAC though maybe it will do better with CFE 223 and Accurate 2460, my starting load is 25 GR for either one. My 168 loads are identical I just use a 168gr Hornady, Nosler or Sierra to 2. 223 Wylde: > 55 gr. Varget will work well in the 223 and 308 (for the 175- so so with the 208). Lots of shooters have used IMR4895/H4895 in match loads with the 223 across all bullet weights. later . 60, plenty good enough for 600 yd F Class. #2 which seems more popular to long-range shooting in general I have found that AR-Comp is a great powder. The only issue I see is that the kernels are a little on the large size for a small case like the . 5 grains. However, in a . 5 to 2 grs slower than H4895. 5grs/2518 fps 45. SBKs 25. BTW, Hodgdon does list IMR-4895 load data for 60 gr bullets, and 4895 was one of those few powders that regardless of who made it, was interchangeable (IMR or Hodgdon; or at least it was close enough to just start low and work up). I now use it exclusively for my 2-300 yd shooting. No idea what velocities are. 8 ∆ fps/grain IMR 4064 41. 308 Winchester, 168 grain MK Powder Start Load Maximum Load Change in fps/grain Varget 42. Randy . TAC was too temp sensitive for my liking, but fast. mac86951 I prefer my what powder is recommended for heavy 223 rounds loaded to shoot out to 600yds? I have a 18" 1-8 barrel if that makes a difference. I need a good load for the 223 Rem. Clean burning, mild H4885 is great for 77's and 75's. I am just going to using 75g BTHP’s for this barrel. For this article, we’ll be looking at the projectile that is colloquially referred to as the “T1”. Improved Military Rifle At my last posting I had put together some ladder loads for BLC(2), CFE223 and Varget powders for the 223 62gr Everglades FMJs. All of the listed powders are used by many, Benchmark is ideal, and used to be one of my standard accuracy powders for testing 224" bullets in the 223 Rem. Use the other powders and be done with this EDIT: if I don't get consistent results with Varget and . X-terminator gave the best performance for the 16" carbine. I have also reduced both the same levels. The H4895 loads grouped 1/2 of what the Varget loads did. Improved Military Rifle IMR 3031. 0gr H4895, Varget, and Benchmark should be a node and be about 2800-2900fps from a 20". As you know each has a sweet spot and start low in charge. Varget or H4895 are looking better. edit: I have shot lots of varget but after trying h4895 I will be buying that next. 303. What 223 loads are you Forums. armorpl8chikn Colonel Angus. Hodgdon's new 2009 manual shows 26. That's when it hit that this might be 5. I'm not too concerned as it leaves more Varget for my . 4 ∆ fps/grain IMR 4895 41. but haven't tried it in . My experience says that Varget is a good powder for the heavier bullets but I've found that the faster powders are better for the lighter bullets. Antelope_Sniper Handloader. Here's my test loads that I'm starting with: Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT bullets Hodgdon H4895 powder I am looking into trying H4895 in my 223 as well and was curious as to what people have found residue and performance wise with it compared to benchmark and 8208xbr. 308 and . That didn't make it shoot with a . 223 AR's. CFE-223 by far the best metering powder. Some powders that we have been having very good luck with as of late are the N130, N133, and N135 from Vihtavuori. I find that Varget is just a weeee bit slower. Not 62 gr. H4895 is ideal in 223 for bullets between 55 and 77gr. 223 have been H4895, Varget and IMR 8208 in that order. Rifle 1 has a 16" barrel, Rifle 2 an 18" barrel. 0 grains with a 77 grain bullet. 308 . Best results have been with Sierra 77 SMK and TMKs over 8208 and TAC. 8" rather than 2. I like Varget with the . It just doesn't meter well for me. I have been using CFE 223 for the past batch, but have found it is very temperature sensitive. Meters well, give good velocity and outstanding accuracy. I figured it was time to move to rifle, and so far it's been enjoyable (minus removing primer crimp from FC brass lol). IMR 8208 XBR is usually the fastest powder I use, but H4895 or Varget usually gets better accuracy AND velocity for me. Do any of you guys have experience with this powder using heavier bullets in 223/5. RCBS Hodgdon H4895. I would go with Varget or IMR 4895. In 308, Varget is my go to powder with RL 15 as my 2nd choice. Forest Ghost New member. Favorite loads would be appreciated. Hodgdon Varget Smokeless Gun Powder. Thanks Bill So I scored a few kegs of Varget powder. 308, 9. Hodgdon lists the starting load at 25grns and max at 26grns. Noticed that I was getting slight compression when seating the rounds in most instances. I also know H4895 works well with the larger 308s as well. That's a good load. 223 Remington. From Western Powder's Reloading Manual, Edition 7. Varget threw almost identical to the H4895 with no adjustment. I am getting excellent 100 yard accuracy using 60 gr. With the 75 Amax, in my 7. Rset. 223 but have not tried it for . 0grs/2520 fps 46. Chrono'd 3100fps+ from all 3. 7 18" barrel. 6gr of Varget and a 77gr SMK loaded at mag length. 200 freebore. Reply. The h335 I run with a 40 grain vmax in my mini target. I never said Varget was a bad powder, but for 223 its actually a pretty poor choice in my opinion and I was simply providing a viewpoint that says 8208 is a great option for someone that is just starting out as its easy to use, 24. New powders have some outstanding qualities. Genreally the 2 powders of choice for the . made it to master firstseason, now I use the 25. View Quote. Not sure about 8208 but if the other posters need to enlarge the gas port is needed. 223, and thus far just the 77CC in the Ackley Improved. IMR describes IMR 4320 as follows: Short granulation, easy metering, and perfect for the 223 Remington, 22-250 Remington, 250 Savage and other medium burn rate cartridges. Meaning I have to add 1. 56 brass, not . However, I much prefer H4895. Apr 22, 2007 #3 2ndtimer Handloader. NRA Life Member, GOA, GOC, CRPA, VCDL Annual Member, SASS #108882. 223 and 6HAGAR space guns. combatveterans. Dec 3, 2015 #6 Re: 6 BR Norma powders recommended by forum: Varget is also an excellent powder for . Apr 23, 2012 #2 Re: Loading for 6x45/6mm-223 I have no (this one is likely to be a real eye opener), H322, H4895,blc-2 I have a Remington LTR in . . Looking at the burn rates published by Hodgdon they rank H335, H4895, Varget, and BL-C(2) in respective order fastest Both H4895 and IMR-4895 are a good choice, and you will give up little over what you've been using. Now, if the weather would just settle down so I could actually do some shooting. IMR 4895 will get the best velocity, but if your rifle will remain supersonic with Varget, it is usually the most accurate. To your question above, I do not think that there is a low end on bullet weight that becomes inappropriate for Varget, it is simply that I and most of the shooters that I know tend toward the heavier end of the spectrum with 223 loadings with this powder. The AR10 and AR15 gets the IMR 4895. 2 of H4895 gives me great accuracy at around 2950. I have some H335, I never got around to testing since I was getting under . Time for your opinion on the best powder for the 22-250. Using BL-C(2), TAC, SW Match etc. Varget, H4895, and 8208XBR are better choices if you can find them. 224”). My . With the hot weather behind me I set in cranking out rounds until I was out of powder. So will it work with 68/69 and 75/77 223 well? one thing you'll find out in reloading is someone else's pet load can be your garbage load. 52gr Sierra MK? 26. and 24. H4895 or Varget if you load for . I have used both, On the hodgdon link Hildago provices thay give you a charge of 25. Sierra HPBT bullets and Varget. 223. Sitting here tonight I was reading over the original paperwork that came with the rifle and the guy that built it says he To say 223 Remington / 223 Wylde is a popular cartridge would be a huge understatement. For the 60 vmax, mine likes Varget - 24 or 26. 223, and having to use compressed loads that could potentially compromise my seating depth without crimping. H4895 also works very well in my rifles with 50-53gr match bullets. 5gr of Benchmark. 223 F-TR build for 2020 Competition Shooting The Firing Line Forums > The Sounds like it won't take much to achieve a consistient . Accurate 2495 is another one that is very close to 4895, designed to duplicate that powder. VARGET H4895 RL15 N133 N135 CFE 223 5 shot MOA at 100 yards with SMK 107gr bullets averages . 60gr bullets should do well too. Took the . Any of the numbers you listed is a good starting point, The goal of this study was to identify substitute or replacement powders for Varget and IMR 8208 XBR for use in . 223 Rem. 223 shooters demand. Like you, I am running short on H4895 albeit for a different caliber, the 223 Rem. Im using a 30 inch Brux barrel with a chamber that has . It has worked very well for me in . Feb 20, 2012 In a 223, varget comes into it's own I the 69g bullet range, otherwise, you are selling yourself short. No. Someday I plan to get into . 3 grains. 748 is my go-to for . , but for H4895 reference: Node loads for 2 AR's chambered in . The guy I bought my rifle from sent me a recipe calling for RE15. Again I won't be using it in the summer but, I'll provably be more comfortable with a stable powder. Varget beats them all but H4198 and IMR 4198 are the most 'efficient' in this cartridge. 6gr max for H4895 powder for 77 SMK. Varget is not ideal for the sub-69s, but Working up loads for my 6x223, loaded up 3 different 70 gr bullets with equal load of Varget and H4895. It's funny that the Sierra bullet shoots better with H4831, but the Hornady bullet seems to like Varget and H4895. My bad - wasn't paying attention to the head stamps. CFE 223 is a close second. IMR 3031 might work too. In the both the 7mm-08 and it's A. Here are some others: H335 / WC844, 4895, BL-C(2 My CZ 527 . Both 8208 XBR and AR Comp are temperature stable and they are smaller mini-stick powder so will meter good in Dillon. using H322 because I couldn't find much of the more popular stuff Varget, RL-15, H4895 and N-203b are all perfect for a . 8530" Ogive This load is just as accurate as my 8208XBR load but chronos around 2600fps. 7 Ring. Looking at the Hodgdon website it says 20. 75 grain, Varget 77 grain, Reloder 15 80 grain, H4895 90 grain, H4895 . 5gr Benchmark, Varget, or H4895 should be a node. BL-C(2) and CFE223 are equally suited to the . 7. F. 223 Remington, 69 I just received 4 lbs of “RG4895” MilSurp powder from a friend, and see that the Hodgdon’s site has data for it. Which have you done best with and what were your best loads? I have used both and depending on the bullet, primer, and brass, can shoot sub . Varget, CFE 223, X-Terminator, and Reloader #7 all work very well. 56 loads? I bought around 6 pounds of Ramshot TAC back in 2008, and I've used it for 223, 308 and 30-30. When I use 69 gr. Rated 4. Whats your favorite powder for . I swear, I really don't know how we killed all that stuff in the early 70's through 90's with Win ball powders and IMR powders Varget is almost certainly not the "best" powder for the . I have noticed that in my rifles that Varget runs cooler than the other powders I’ve tried. 223 anyone? Was looking around for some 8208 to try but it looks sold out everywhere. I am helping a buddy out and working up a load for his 223. 0gns of Varget for the 60 gn vmax. 0, pages 46, 47: My best three powders with the heavy bullets in the . All my past . It is real consistent in my experience. 5" with Varget. 0gr CFE223. 8 grains of So yeah I'd rather avoid that with CFE223. However, I mostly use 748. 30-06 too. 223 posts · That book does not show loads for either Varget or H4895 -- doesn't mean they don't exist. 1 grain from Book Max) 2886 fps with 25. DANNY-L Active member. 308. But given the burn rate of Varget (and 4895 used to be my go-to powder for 223 and 55gr bullets (then moved to Varget). 223 has a 1:9 twist and has shot 69 grain Sierra # 1380 SMK bullets with H4895 powder pretty well with a best load average of 0. I guess I shouldn't assume 4895 will shoot the 69s as well at that velocity. (Old N140, or H4895). TKS JPB . With MY specific barrel and components, my load is 24. I was hoping for some good performance from TAC, but so far, my TAC groups were not as good as with H4895 and Norma 201. I use it, along with benchmark, h335 and h4895 for my . I will caution from my load work up that AR-COMP hits pressure signs, within a few tenths of a H4895 isn't as course as the IMR variety, so it works better in . I have yet to find a powder that is better overall than H4895 for that particular application. 1 gr. Is there a good all around powder for both calibers? Not looking for match grade loading. Seems as though the "realistic" upper pressure limit is somewhere between the two. What's new. since h4895 seems to fit nicely for both weight i I have a new 20”barrel. I've got 3 223's to work up loads for. I'd like to stick with the ball powders if possible, but may try H4895 and Varget as well. 8 ∆ fps/grain . 9 to 24. For me, in my measure, using my technique, Varget meters better than most extruded powders (SD = 0. 25. i am 23. pdf I Others say H335 is the only powder choice for the 223. Lyman #26. SMK and varget or h4895 - 55 ballistic tip and h335 or benchmark or h4895. 0 grains with a 55 grain bullet, 24. H4895 is a good compromise, since it is temp-stable, and gets better velocity than Varget. RL-15 seems to be the most available powder in this class right now. I really like Varget for . Follow my Instagram https://instagram. Varget is one. 1971 Marlin 336 in 30-30 1978 Marlin 336 in 30-30 1967 Marlin 336 I would use RL 15 but I guess 15/Varget is ford/chevy. 3 grain increments when loading for accuracy in . 223 load development has been for a 13. very much like Varget. Velocity is 3125 fps out of I’m also working on a 75 ELDM load for a Tikka 223 CTR. I’ve been having difficulty locating load data Clean the barrel thoroughly and and use . I realize the Varget would be my pick out of the 2. Current powders of choice are varget and xbr8208. I switched to TAC and have not looked back. 5-2 grs more to get the same velocity as the 4895. 222, but certainly can be loaded to be a good choice. I picked up Varget and was able to figure out 24-26grs seems to be kind of the sweet spot for most peoples guns but The 223 Remington is easy to load for and there a number of powders you might try. 035 from the lands with 24-24. 5. I have had great luck in my guns with the IMR 4895 and Varget Powders. I am using FC brass and Hodgdon H4895 powder. In order it would be VV140, H4895, IMR 8208, Varget, Re15. Hodgdon website shows some differences (shown below). Sierra MatchKing bullets and Varget, the groups open up. 1/9 Twist, 55gr BK, 43 Varget 175 Sierra or Nosler Match 2. spreadshirt. Reactions: jtc62. I used to use Varget, 25. I started reloading a few months ago, and so far had pretty good success with 9mm. 0grs/2447 fps 45. SMKs 24. (H4895 will do even though it's a little faster. 223 with 55 and 52 grain bullets. The 75gr A-MAX shoot well, but nothing like the bergers still well under . I know that Varget is the standby, and you can hardly go wrong. 55gr smk is most important to me Midsouth Shooters is THE powder and primer source! See our selection of Hodgdon Powders like Varget, Titegroup, CFE223, CFE Pistol, Pyrodex, and more. Hodgdon Varget. 0 grains with a 69 grain bullet and 23. In terms of precision, Varget works just fine. Lots of shooters with lots of experience running Varget in 223's. 308 Win with medium to heavy bullets. I am not sure about the 308 but for the 223 I have found h4895 loaded near max with 77-80 gr bullets is very consistent @ 625 yards on target. So far in . 378 with 23. 22-250 but haven't been able to restock recently due to the panic buying. 223 Ackley, loading 75 grain Amax and 77 grain Nosler custom competition in the standard . I have never bought H4895 or varget. New posts Search forums. Varget and H4895. 5 grain Varget with no problem – very slight cratering at the high charges. Classifieds. 1 gr as max load (out of 20" barrel) w/ 60 SIE HP bullet. 5 MOA. I use the benchmark and varget for the 52 grain bthp, and 55 fmj cannlure with great results. Varget is an excellent powder for many applications and not just in . Always have back up plan. It'd be nice to find something they will all tolerate for the pdog fields. 223 with heavies, neither of these two powders provides the same precision for me as H4895, not even close. The T1 is available as a I used to use W748 in my 223 handloads. Aug 17, 2010 10,672 30,674 55 Face Slapping Distance. My problem is that when I run out of any of them that's it. That's my views. 223 caliber. . 1 gr). 223 service rifles in high power rifle matches as well as in I’ve been using Varget in my 223 ARs for a few years and I’m very satisfied with the results. I'll be shooting this out of 18" 1:8 barrel. 23. AR-COMP has become my favorite for 223 in the 50-75gr bullet weights. JD338 . Since i dont shoot 223 and never really have much i was sure where to begin with it. 223 also. com/west-desert-shooter/allUintah Precisionht IMR 4895 or H4895 are my go to for 55gr bullets. Is it common or more importantly dangerous to have a compressed load using Varget. Below 60 grains I’ve settled on H335. 223, NATO, or Wylde) here is the latest information from Ramshot. I have Varget,Imr 4064,Cfe223,and H335. Might I suggest some H4895? I have had great success in that powder with the 223 and have shot it in temps from 0-90. However I also have a Sierra "manual" specific for AR15 reloading (. Anyone using this in their 5. Worth trying if you haven't done so. 0 Reply. one day with one of the 20" AR15s. I've also heard good things about CFE223 and Ramshot TAC. Other suggested powders would be Varget, H335, W748 and TAC. IMR4895 might take a slight edge with lighter bullets. If "temp sensitive" is your baby, then think of H322, H4895, and benchmark for the lighter bullets. 223 and is very temperature stable. From varmint hunting to a slue of competition formats and range/training rifles, the Im putting these on 28 gr or varget. I am loading for a 223 AR with a White Oak Armament upper. 223 because the PSI ratings for that powder were higher than H4895 and Varget for I'm putting together a 26" . Go with H4895 or RL-15 if Varget is scarce. Out to the above listed ranges, I have seen no difference in POI. 5 H4895. 223 and a 7. I mostly use Varget, as I find it cleaner, but it doesn't quite match 4895's speed with the lighter bullets, say <69 grains. Bearcat 74 New member. 5 Berger Fullbores. Both of those are very good, advertised temp insensitive, etc. 25gr +/- 0. Powder Valley is proud to offer the full line of Hodgdon powder, from the H4895 powder that started it all, to the new Varget powder is designed for easy metering and features the quick-igniting power that . Castle_Rock. Hope this helped. I've had success with RL15 behind 77s but it doesn't meter all that great. Reactions: Benchrest Braxton. 223, with fine results. my research so far lead to- 69 gr. Many of the best 308 powders are also very good in 223 and vice versa. There is a lot of variation in . So far the results have been underwhelming. IMR 4350 is too slow burning. i load for several calibers but just got a 223. In 223 with jacketed anyway. I haven't tried Varget or H4895 in everything but have found H4895 provides at least slightly better overall accuracy generally (not always) making it a bit more versatile than Varget. 95 out of 5. I test on hot days so I know that I won't have a future problem. H335, H380, Varget, H4895, W748 are good powders for 223. I almost got an 8-lb jug of H4895 instead of Varget, but went with Varget because I am familiar with it's behavior (having already burned an 8-lb jug of LeverEvolution will be the fastest speed and easiest to meter in press, but is temperature sensitive. Then I couldn't find those so I was forced to change. I am low on powder and have been using H4895 for both but I'm not thrilled. After calling the world over and not being able to find any I was about to give up on being able to reload. 0 of H4895 because its cleaner and i have a ton of it. Today I extended the powder range from 22. Campfire A better alternative to Varget that is available in the metro is look at IMR 4896 or H4895. Feb 20, 2019 #9 jtc62 said: New to board. cowpoke New member After many years of using Varget in my AR 15 behind 69,75 and 77 gr bullets with good results, I tried H 4895, and groups shrunk even more. SMKs, Varget works better than H4895. All of those powders work well in . IMR 8208 xbr is a good 77 powder as is MR2000 power pro. I do use 4895 for the 69 grain bullets. I found it to be a fairly accurate but somewhat dirty powder. For the 80s and 90s, Varget is slightly superior, though h4895 works nice there too. Hodgdon H4895 and VarGet Alternatives Part 4 WARNING The load data contained on this site is intended for use with specific rifles and components. Since you have the powder I would use it. 9 twist, but I never got it to work, and both powders work really well in my . 223 loads now. Other manufacturers’ Looking for better velocities for my 55 FMJBT loads in . 20inch target barrel with 1/8 twist. But, IMR4895 is easier to find. 174 posts · Joined 2015 Add to H4895 is close, but not a direct substitute for IMR4895. Benchmark has worked well in my loads but I don't have any in bulk so it's not something I reach for when loading the 223. That Reloading For The AR-15: Hornady 75 Grain BTHP Hornady produces three different versions of their 75 grain open-tip-match bullet in 22 caliber (0. Jun 28, 2012 #10 25. Wondering if I should be looking into slower burning Powder Choices for 223 Bolt Gun Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting The Firing Line Forums > The I have on hand now Varget,H4895,H4831,H380,IMR4064,H4350. Thanks. I've been offered 8lb for $220, should I do it? While Varget and Reloder 15 remain in short supply, you can often find IMR 4320 powder back in the shelves of local gun stores. Some people have pressure signs at 24grs and others don't have any for quite a bit. I think you would have better luck with Varget as sierra list 27. 3, and got good results with it. Log in 25-grs of Varget. Re: Powder For Heavy Bullets in . Every time I test, Varget yields better accuracy than TAC (1/2 MOA vs 3/4 MOA at 200 yards). I found Reloder 10x and have been using that ever since. 2 grains of TAC (. CCI450 and 25. I throw my VARGET charges thru my 550's measure. Just curious if anyone uses 53gr V-Max bullets for . Just target shooting in a semi 223 and bolt 308. But use more CFE 223 now as it's quite a bit cleaner burning and I still get fine accuracy. 5g H4895 1xLC (fully prepped & Machine Annealed) 205M 77smk 1. 5 grains of Varget for some time now. None of these are hot loads. Jan 25, 2008 and Varget for the heavier. Varget is always a good stand by along with imr4895/h4895. But I hardly ever use a bullet light enough for Benchmark to be the best powder. Similar results with 8208 and Varget. I’ve got plenty of both, so I may sideline So after pondering this for quite a while, I tried H4895 in our 223s and 308 (all ARs) in a quest for a bit more accuracy in both compared to Varget, and possibly come up with an all around powder for 55 to 69gn 223 bullets and 135 - 155 gn 308 bullets. Jun 27, 2009 #5 A. You might go a half grain more with caution and a milder magnum primer like CCI 450 and Rem 7. www. I still have a bunch left that I'm using in my 308 hunting loads. Depending upon what type chamber you have (. 0 grains A2230- (Book Max) 2943 fps with 25. I'm loading . After that I would probably lean toward Varget or H4895 . I've heard that most people swear by this stuff, so me being me I bought some. Varget or H4895 are large extruded stick powder so metering on Dillon will be okay. Posts : 1,985. Last week I got lucky and found out that an acquaintance could get me some Alliant Power Pro Varmint - 8 lbs in fact, for a reasonable price. It shoots a little tighter and a little faster than the varget load. 0-25. Barrel has been chambered with a Wylde chhamber. Further, H4895 is proven to be safe and consistent in building moderately Varget, CFE 223, X-Terminator, and Reloader #7 all work very well. 223 bolt rife for shooting 77 and 80 grainers. I also use VV N540 with good results as well as Varget. MatchKing I use both Varget and H335 for my . Posted: 4/13/2020 8:05:58 PM EST [#4] AR-Comp I use it for My wife bought me a Hornady electronic powder measure/scale unit and I use it for IMR4198 and . As noted previously, I’ve also gotten great results from both 223 and 308 with Varget (See my Budget Precision 223 Series), but haven’t tested those cartridges with a custom rifle I've been tinkering with a 8 twist . 308WIN as any of the above powders. bullets. Doesn't meter anywhere near as well as 748, but it shoots better with the heavier bullets for me. 260 OAL. 6 grains. I really like 2460 for . I have measured out multiple times with a Yeah, I tried Varget because I have it and because Hodgdon listed a decent potential 3,134 fps with a 55g Barnes I know it's generally better suited to heavier bullets in the . I also I've used H4895 with heavy match bullets in . I have bolt guns in 223 and 308 that I use Varget for. 24grs of varget and a 77gr SMK loaded at mag length is a common "sweetheart" load. 223, I'll try it in . Posted: 4/23/2020 5:52:05 PM EST [#7] H322 or Well, varget and Benchmark are extreme powders and will do pretty consitent work in temperature variances out to around 350/400yds. list 26. I'm about to buy one and of course I want to stamp out my own rounds and I have no powder. 223 Wylde 1/8 twist . As far as larger game, the 62gr TSX get the nod from we on 26gr or varget once again shoot around 1/4 MOA if i do my part. According to my references you can use: H4895, Varget, RE-15, VV N140, VV N135, AA I recently started reloading for 223. I was trying to confirm my groups/sight in at 100 yds. Very nice load for 500-600yds and in. I use IMR-4895 90% of the time when loading for a Garand. Reactions: linedrive301ft and Bill My choices are H335, RL-15, Varget. Apr 6, 2020 Right now we are going to start with 87gr hornady amax using varget powder. 223 77gr SMK BTHP for an AR with a Kreiger 1:7. 223 brass specs. 9" AR. Mar 22, 2012 I've loaded very few bullets in this weight range in 223 over the years. and, of course what you are loading for if you are looking high volume and ease of metering then you have to look at CFE if you seeking accuracy then you might look at IMR 4895 or H4895 and IMR 4064 is not too shabby either. So, there are plenty of choices in regard to powder. That being said, I do the same thing asking buds about their pet loads to get a feel of what powders seem to work for others. 9grs/2766 fps 56. Varget for anything in the . Would varget do ok? I've used H4895 with heavy match bullets in . 320 with a best group of 1. CFE 223 just doesn't NOTE: 26 grains of IMR-4895, under a 55gr FMJ, in a 223, is likely a compressed charge. I usually use Varget or H4895 to load . 3 Grains of W748 delivering 3150 FPS, 26. H4895 and 75 grain AMax give me my best accuracy/range/velocity loadings in that bullet range. 2230 is a copy of 748. 223 out to 100 yds last week to to test seating depth with 80. 99 - $ 380. 223 and . 3x62, 376 Steyr, . Both go bang with heavier bullets but you'll give up 100 FPS over the "right" powders for the heavies - Varget, RL-15, H4895 Varget _should_ be good in the 223, since it's essentially just Australian 4064. Thanks roc1 Buy. The 223 works will with things like H335, 748, H4895, Benchmark,etc. I have substituted both IMR 4895 and Varget for H4895 with some minor load development and / or accuracy verification and found them to be entirely adequate. I've read randomly all over the web that Varget is not a good powder for an AR-15. Best have been hovering around an inch with H4895. 2 1/9 and a 1/12 twist. 0gr -22. 308 so nothing lost. 6grs but obviously do your load work up. 0grs H4895 + CCI 400's super accurate in my 3 . 223 with 1:9 twist sing with heavy bullets. It is a little cleaner and made a bit better velocity for the same weight powder. I can’t remember what led me to try TAC, but I have been using it for 223 for about 10 yrs, with the exception of Varget for SMK&STMK. I did a full OCW test with Varget/77smk combo and my WOA 1:7 barrel just didn't like it. Good speed but only average accuracy. Varget really shines in the accuracy department but H322 and H4895 shine just a tiny bit more. Varget works fine and was accurate in 223, but doesn't produce the velocity I was looking for with 40 to 55 gr. 303 but have not tried it I just got a new RRA 24" 1:8 varmint upper (Wyld chamber) and was going to start working up a load for it this weekend. 24. Of your list, I like IMR4895 the best. 66/223 loads? On a Dillon RL550B? I am with Iowegan, varget is a great powder for the . Yotesmoker makes a good point. 5 MOA most days. The magnum primer will clear up (24" barrel). 0gr Varget. version with the 139gr SST's I ran Varget as well as H4350 and H4895 Varget was as easy to load as either of them and I trusted the stability of the powder. Several, including H335, BL-C(2), Varget, Benchmark, IMR 8208 XBR, H4895, and CFE 223 have proven to be the most versatile choices with all bullet weights. Many other powders were tried, but I found H4895 to perform the best. I scored an 8lb jug of LVR last year for 30-30, 32 Special and 35 Remington. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4064. I will be looking forward to seeing how the 335 works for you. ) The velocity mentioned is my W748 accuracy load and getting all dialed in with that trajectory. I have maybe a pound of H4895 and Varget left over that I plan to use for my 308 168gr BTHP loads. also shoot well on CFE 223 right around 1/4 MOA. 5grs/2703 fps 60. Use Varget or H4895. 0 grains of H4895. When I load the case with 25grns there is very little room in the case. 223 (in that order, actually), but I don't like the unused potential of Varget in the . I use the h4895 with a 75 grain bthp match bullet in my 1n7 and 1n8 ar's. H4895 For 77 gr. I havnt 4320, 4895-which is the powder used in both ball and match loads for military ammo, Reloder 12 and 15, H380, H414, H4895, Varget, BL-C2, Win 742 and 760-the list goes on I reload only 2 rifle calibers: . I am not expecting great accuracy Re: Varget Vs H4895 for 20" 1 - 12 twist barrel It's all about what your gun likes. IMR 8208 XBR is a great one too. I have a few pounds of varget and about 1/4 lbs of H4895 (enough for testing as this shows higher velocities for a What’s your favorite powder for heavier bullets in a 223? I’m shooting a Kimber Montana in 233 with a 9 twist so 77gr TMKs are about max weight In order it would be VV140, H4895, IMR 8208, Varget, Re15. Your 1 in 14" twist rate may not be enough to stabilize the long 55 gr Ballistic Tips at the velocities your . fshaw #16420362 09/10/21. I'm loading for an AR so I have other things to worry about like functioning, but I've found it shoots great, I have a (1 in 8), 20" wylde chamber AR 15 and would like to obtain accurate loads for the 55gr smk, 62gr smk, 69 gr smk and 77gr smk using military brass, remington brass and pmc brass. Lots of better choices than Varget out there for 223. Joined: Mar 2010. 5 H4895 175 Sierra or Nosler Match 2. 99 $ 49. In 308 win with jacketed, Varget seems to be about 1. Thanks I've used probably 10lbs of CFE223 in 223 it's a fine powder as is Varget no experience with 7mm-08 so I can't speak to that Click to expand I started reloading 223 using Varget and H4895. I mostly use Varget, as I find it cleaner, but it doesn't quite match 4895's speed with the lighter bullets, say I have read other's reviews and tests that it is more temp stable then Varget. Posted By: Castle I agree Varget works great in a 223 1-8" with the 75gr ELD-M ( accurate load) this bullet must be close to it's velocity threshold in a 223, at 22-250 velocities it does shotgun patterns. Switched to Varget, AR-COMP, and H335. 0-27. Most guys fall between 24-24. Both work well with lighter bullets and are heat sensitive. I think, with this bullet at this velocity , The 223 is not hard to load for and accuracy is easily found. H322 and Benchmark are a little fast for a 75 but are very consistent and meter well, at the loss of a little velocity. 250" Varget and N540 dont heat up the barrel as much as 4895 does as well. Varget is a good all rounder, and is used in my . Just curious as to what other are using. Jan 26, 2018 #4 Should say I’m also looking at 60 vmax, I’ll I am using the 60gr vmax in a 1/9 . H4895 (both rifles) > 69 gr. 2 twist barrel, I am currently using 24. Anyway, loaded some rounds to . 815" 2575fps Of those my favorite is the RL15 load followed by the H4895 and Varget loads. SST's until a friend turned me onto Varget, es/sd #'s dropped way down and the cartridge picked up a little velocity- win win. I have no experience with Staball powders, but hear they are the new hotness. 223 I’ve used Blc2, H335, I figured that would happen. 3100fps seems a bit optimistic H4895 in . 223? I searched and found some data from other loaders, but Hornady's load data is not available on their website I just recently got 223 dies, bullets, and powder. W748 is as good as it gets for accuracy, and it really makes a . TAC is right next to those 2 in the burn rate tables, and the weights I seem to get best results with I think sierra 5 ed. H4895 will work just fine in . For the most part, I've stuck to Varget, and have maybe subconciously bought cartridge on purpose that tend to like Varget in the last few years: 7-08, . But the 260 will lose about 80 to 100 fps with the Varget and H4895 give similar and efficient performance over a wide range of cartridge/bullet combinations. 308 175 SMK at 1000, I am probably not going to see this gun for 6 months. The CCI 450 seems to be the best primer for me. IMR-4895 is a bit on the slow side for 223, but still quite serviceable, especially with the heavier bullet weights. May need to jump more to pucker the groups - it's the slickest bullet in it's weight class. 223's. What other powder(s) would you suggest I try for the 69 gr. 2 ∆ fps/grain H4895 41. 90 gr JLK VLD and lots of Varget. 1 as max load w/ H4895 in bolt action. In my testing the closer to maximum you get, the better it works. IMR 4064 is very temp-stable, like Varget. Full Member. 5 twist . Some like Varget, and it is a good powder, I just prefer 4895. 223 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16. 5 gr. I do use some varget for 77gn bullets. kurtm, you must be using Varget or In my quest to find a good alternative to XBR-8208 (because it's never available) for my 77 TMK loads, I got 1 lb of N540 to try out. Articles. Extruded powder, but very small kernels. My go to powder for 223 are Accurate 223, cfe223 and H335. The powders I have already that may work: Ramshot TAC Hodgdon H4895 Hodgdon Varget Hodgdon Benchmark IMR 4198 Reloder 15 While Varget and Reloder 15 remain in short supply, you can often find IMR 4320 powder back in the shelves of local gun stores. I don't think you will find the answer you seek until you have experimented awhile. Using a Speer 55 grain soft point and Remington 7 1/2 small rifle primer. In my rifle H4895 has been good for anything from 60-70 grains. 308 but no time soon. Out of 16" barrel I've gotten: 3155 fps with 26. Sep 26, 2004 269 11. 815" 2520fps (18" barrel, hot load)*** 41. 223 rifles have done their best with Varget. 223 case capacities. All three provide the best accuracy in both my bolt rifle and my AR. 56 What Powder works best with the 77 sierra Match Kings as I want to stick with heavier projectiles. Latest reviews Author list. 0 grains of H4895 delivering 3315 FPS. 815" for a 175. 223 are Benchmark & H335. com/westdesertshooterWest Desert Shooter Apparel https://shop. OAL = 2. Win 748 is not temp-stable, but can be very Brass life with the H4895 load will definitely be shorter than with the Varget load. C. Varget, H4895, Benchmark, H4198. I had noticed that I got great accuracy with both powders last time I shot the 25. I never really got the accuracy out of H4895 that I wanted. If you don't mind single loading rounds jump a 75 Berger VLD . Precision/grouping between Varget and N140 was comparable. smhs uhlzj purnthh furbf zymfrda rlv smbfw qcbkigk zemt pevpn