Eu4 crush the reformation reddit So any advice on what to do? 15 votes, 12 comments. Hope they pop up in a OPM. Stopping the reformation is easier if it is combined with the first strategy, cause it will create more opms with weak allies. Not sure why EU4 England likes to flip Protestant all the time for me now, I have all the DLC. Rein the Italian, crush Venice, take Kosovo and the gold mine before the Ottomans, make a collection of CBs to destroy the Centers of Reformation as soon as they pop. Members Online Eagle77678 Should a centre of reformation have religious zeal? I never noticed this before and as the emperor it means i'll have to wait 20 years before i can even start to crush the reformation. Playing as the Papal State, EVERY SINGLE PROVINCE bar Roma has been converted to either protestant or reformed in the space of about 30 years. So I have enough IE to ennact the reform that disallows wars in HRE. Playing as emperor can be extremely frustrating, but it can also be really satisfying to finally crush the reformation and get on your way to the most overpowered vassalswarm in the game. It is called Center of Reformation. However I didn't crush the third center of Reformation of reformed religion and it still hasn't appear. When reformation hits, you want to avoid heretic princes lowering your IA. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by… And you still need to take care of the centers of reformation. Please let me know if it is intended. Members Online Protestant Center of reformation in a catholic country. Members Online The most exciting (to me) revelations Johan has made in the comments of the Tinto Talks subforum Playing as Emperor RN and I was easily able to crush all the protestant reformation centers. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Higher reformation desire only makes it happen faster. If they are too bi Yep. It also gives an unrest malus, so while it's not too significant, it's always fun to provoke rebels in a rival's country. Then I try to take the center of reformation in the Savoy. I cant force religion because it requires %111 war score with the cleanse heretic cb. If you have a perfect run, you can get a PU on Hungary, Poland and Lithuania (a bit of RNG), become the Emperor as soon as the initial Austrian emperor dies, PU Saxony and Brandenburg through your mission tree and crush the reformation). The price is too steep for very little reward. 328K subscribers in the eu4 community. there's no way at all to stop or slow the spread of the reformation in your country until… A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about Paradox Interactive games and of the company proper. While not the end of the world, it's a bit annoying to not get to use the 25% warscore cost age ability and not get the council of Trent for additional warscore cost reduction. Reformed almost always spawns in Switersland or the Netherlands so they are quite easy to destroy even without the age ability. Thanks :) In my Austria game I’m trying to crush the reformation. R5: I am playing as Austria and trying to crush the reformation. Edit: In case you don't know yet: Centers of Reformation are province modifiers, which give -5% or so on missionary chance to convert, and they actively convert other provinces both nearby and far away. With the PU over Milan from the event, and PUs over Bohemia and Hungary I can crush Venice and use Milan cores to move into Savoy and Genoa. 841 votes, 131 comments. So i am playing as Austria its 1533 the CoR start spawning. I’m trying to crush the Protestants and Salzburg is one of the centers of reformation. You have two options to destroy centers of reformation: either by manually converting, or by forcing religion in a peace deal. I did it last week. You should be ready to spend half a century doing nothing but containing the reformation. Did all the normal Habsburg-ing (Bohemia and hungry Pu, shadow kingdom, inheritance), then the reformation fired in 1506 in ditmarschen. How does 1 work? As the Pope, you will get several events which lower reform desire by 10%. what do i do because i would like to play around the HRE to revoke 41 votes, 11 comments. Pretty good leader, bonuses of being the revolutionary target, unique government type and ridiculously cheap techs if played out right. What should I do? A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. And to be honest, it is very tough as nation starting so far away from the HRE. I think it's slightly absurd that A. Savoy is a center of reformation but not the capital of Switzerland. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by… As the reformation popped up, I was already quite strong, so I began attacking heretic princes via co-belligerent chains. Yeah it spawned for me around 1725 and went away around 1775 since noone took the mantle. All while using Hungary to push through the Balkans and block the Ottoblobs. 350K subscribers in the eu4 community. The challenge for you is to crush that center before too much damage has happened. e. 333K subscribers in the eu4 community. If reformation spawns inside the HRE, no cb the country right away, force convert through peace treaty to crush the reformation, doesn't matter if you get a huge HRE-wide coalition. So i watched some videos and they say if you want to stop the reformation you need to kill the CoR. However, I'm faced with a tough option. Your next goal is to minimize the number of heretics in the HRE (assuming you're in the HRE/the Emperor). That’s like, nothing at all. tldr; What to do with the reformation as Emperor? Crush it. When the reformation hits, you'll have time to claim over to the province and declare war. The idea is to go crush Dithmarschen and force convert them fast, then go siege the war target and white peace. You want a huge army, and the force limit boost combined with the high Venice node trade income is the way to make this happen. You can only delay it playing as the Papal State. In some previous patches it would routinely fire (relatively far) before 1500. Make sure they don't break their alliances so you can constantly call them as co-belligirents if they divert back to protestant. Agreed it definitely sidetracked my game because I kinda waited around 50 years to make sure I didnt lose my chance at the achievement. What should I do about the reformation? I know you can take the no CB stab hits and force religion on protestants and reformed to crush the reformation, but is it better to just win the league war and enforce religion from there? Hey Guys, I want to start a new game as the Pope where I want to eliminate (or at least strongly curb) the Reformation. Form Italy, crush the reformation I always thought religious ideas are overrated in HRE gameplay, when I'm playing Austria I'm just trying to keep countries as small as possible (so high chance, that CoR will appear in capital), have as many CBs as possible - make claims, choose transfer power in preace treaties for CB when they stop it and even if you need to take province to convert it decisions should break that -5%. Your vassals will help convert. Question I can handle the other two but Salzburg isn’t converting to Protestantism. Support Naples independent before snapping them up. You can do this by conquering the province and converting it. Just prioritize giving land to the vassals that take religious ideas. If you're not planning to become Emperor, you actually want the reformation to spread quite a bit, just to prevent that Austria can revoke. I’m looking for suggestions on how best to live in a world where the Reformation happens on its own. But if your provinces get converted by a Center of Reformation in another country, you can either conquer that province and convert it or if it is in a capital of a nation which is not catholic anymore you can force them to change their religion in a peace deal which will instantly convert their capital and remove the Center of Reformation Fight the reformation and enjoy an alternate HRE game. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about Paradox Interactive games and of the company proper. Also the center of reformation should get destroyed, once you win a "crush the revolution war" against the country, in which it did spawn Reply reply RunFar87 I'm currently doing the All Blue achievement and somehow the reformation hasn't spawned even though the reformation desire has been over 100% for quite a while. I watched Reman's Paradox's video about how to crush the reformation but I'm still lost. Join the HRE and use the "allow claims bordering claims" era choice to make claims deep into Central Europe. In order to prevent the reformation from firing at all every European Catholic country that is not the Papal State needs to be converted or conquered. You might even get the Burgundian inheritance. i watched videos and the youtubers don't show them joining but somehow get lots of nations to join just by having them allied and having your opinion of them at 190. . What do I do? Wouldn't then be better to just crush the reformation and have the HRE allies stay Catholic? I know it's not so doable as not Emperor, but I don't quite see it in practice. This seems to me like a bug. I instantly no-CBed but Riga has remained… After securing Bohemia and Hungary, take religious ideas. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game… You can't really crush the reformation as Spain pre-1550. So I want to crush the reformation and i have a long truce with an opm that has a CoR in its capital, will thee center be removed if i… Three ways you can pursue simultaneously, stack missionary strenght to convert it back later, use the anti-reformation edict to delay and crush reformation centers Often times, centers of reformation spawn in capital provinces (usually thanks to the concentration of OPMs in the HRE) 353K subscribers in the eu4 community. Members Online KilgoreTrouserTrout Did the 1444-1820 exploit as outlined in Remans latest video, and started a game as Austria. I´ve done it before as the… To promulgate reforms as the Emperor as Spain, you must crush the reformation. Have claims fabricated on bordering countries and look for allies to declare on to crush the reformation. Centers of Reformation outside of the HRE can be a blessing, if they are really far away (I once saw one in Scotland, essentially meaningless for continental Europe) or a curse, if they are in a big nation right next to the empire, like France or Poland. 467 votes, 63 comments. It’s outside my coring range so I can’t take it, and they refuse to flip over to Prot. It will also make sure that the reformation doesn't sap your IA away. It is insane to get such rich land for low AE. Posted by u/Bwest31415 - 2 votes and 3 comments I am currently playing an HRE game, as the Emperor and trying to centralise the Empire. You can also get the imperial ban CB on Denmark just by passing the first reform, unless they somehow lose that single HRE province of theirs. i have small nations with 190 opinion both ways that border the HRE and they just won't join. Make sure no-one protestant or reformed stays alive in your empire. But i Do not know how to play in age of reformation (reformation centers or strategy of religious war) To crush reformation early, you have to force convert nations with centers of reformation in their capitals. It wasn't until Pope man refused Henry's request for a divorce from Catherine of Aragon that he decided "yo, the Reformation's actually cool" and founded Anglicanism. Revolution Target is granted to any Great Power that has turned Revolutionary if there isn't one already. the British landing in Quiberon (compared to say, the fall of Constantinople, discovery of the new world, reformation, enlightenment, Waterloo, etc) could have drastic differences on Europe as we know it Jul 22, 2020 · Hi guys, So before this emperor update rolled around, when the age of reformation started I could just no CB declare on centers of reformation and force religion on them converting them back to catholic which made the "center of reformation" disappear, which was a fast and relatively easy way to crush the reformation and not to have religious wars, while keeping all of the HRE catholic A no cb will only cost you like 20-30 AE, if you don’t annex any province. It's 1522 and I want to ennact this because I already have 54 IE but I am afraid that I will be unable to crush the third center when it appears. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game… I ask this because I think it would be fun to play a game as a Catholic power like Austria and try to destroy the Reformation, but if it is too easy, and just a matter of no-CBing Lübeck or wherever, then that would be disappointing and anticlimactic in a way. It may happen below 100%. This may be too difficult to achieve, considering the -2% missionary strength for territory, -2% for non-accepted culture and -5% for being a center of reformation the province has. After force converting the religion in their capital will charge instantly and the center will disappear. You must get claims to destroy the centers of reformation early, and be the Emperor to prevent a huge war against Austria. Lots of shit opinion modifyers, annoying amount of manpower drained, and entirely RNG on how many stab losses & AE hits you have to take on no CBs. I was able to destroy a couple centers of reformation that way, and can soon destroy the last Reformed CoR in the HRE as well. I managed to take berlin down quickly with force religion, but there are currently two more centers spreading protestantism that I can't force religion on. Annex Milan, Annex Florance, take Rome. In my Austria game the reformation started, and as luck would have it, the three protestant centers of reformation spawned in Wurtemburg, Ravensburg, and Ulm. However it being on the border is destroying my IA. 356K subscribers in the eu4 community. Reformation will ruin your ability to gain IA. Usually you just need to crush the first reformation center anyways. Dec 26, 2020 · There are two reasons for this: the monthly Imperial Authority gain and the boost it gives to your force limit. Some franchises and games of note: Stellaris, Europa Universalis, Imperator: Rome, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron, Victoria and Cities: Skylines. otherwise you need to park 30000 troops in the Hey so it's been a while since I played eu4 (about a year), but the reformation seems harder than I remember. So I want to crush the Reformation. Try to have it finished when the centers of reformation pop up. There is some marks on that map. If none triggers you will have a pop-up saying revolutions were a failure and get the reward anyway. i've been waiting for about a year in game and they haven't joined. The Papacy/Curia Controller strategy will only delay it, Byzantium healing the Schism usually misses a few countries, especially Byz's rivals. I declared war on Switzerland and have %100 war score as of now. No I thought that if I took the two provinces and enforced religion that there last province must flip to catholic as it would be their capital, it that didn’t happen and so they are a catholic country with a center of reformation and it is now impossible to destroy unless zealots spawn (which they won’t as they already had the religious turmoil event fire and conclude). If the Center of Reformation (CoR) is in the capitol province, forcing the country to convert religion to Catholic in a peace deal will delete the CoR. Should I convert? Not really. Only 3 centers per religion are allowed, so 6 for protestant and reformed and maybe a 1 center for hussie. Reigning in Italy is required because if they leave, you can always use the Expand Empire CB to bring them in. When the reformation spawns you should be in a better position to dec on the center source or on one of its allies. Just declare on as many heretics as possible before that and force religion on OPM's. I know posts about this topic have been made on this sub before but I still have several questions that weren't answered in the information I saw. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by… Hey guys, I am playing as Austria year about 1450s I have bohemia and hungary in PU but burgundy did not come i am still waiting for Low Lands. Diplo cuts the stab hit in half for a no CB war. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by… 345K subscribers in the eu4 community. More princes equals more IA, possible CB to crush reformation, and the Emperor ignores coring distance within HRE if you want to expand directly. Now that reform has spawned, I need to crush those too. If you can keep most of them 1-3 provinces, you should be able to force convert them. Like others have said, force conversion on the CoRs. You need to rush diplomacy as Austria. There are two ways to stop the Reformation. A Protestant center of reformation spawned in pomerania’s Catholic capital. The other reason is that the central focus of the story (perhaps I should have left in the 200 word summary) was how a seemingly insignificant event that occurs during the EU4 timeframe, i. So do I need to crush those as well? I haven't completed religious ideas yet and I had to declare no CB wars against heretic princes so my AE is pretty high. I’m not trying to play meta or crush the Reformation—it’s too late for that anyways. Always use the imperial liberation of provinces to get extra CBs. 5%, hire a missionary advisor for +2%, state edict gets you another +1%, ensure the culture of the province is accepted, decisions can get you another +1-2% and you can still convert a centre of reformation even without religious ideas. Shutting down Centres of Reformation is the most effective way to stop the Reformation before it even starts. You would probably want to save scum so that the first reformation center would be in an OPM tho, so force religion will make them convert the center automatically. The Reformation just spawned with centers right next to be (Ravensburg and Wittenburg). Austria HRE revoke is pretty good for a one faith. Frankly dealing with reformation is the most 'difficult' part of the HRE gameplay, you eat a lot of shit going through it. Playing Ironman as HREmperor France, and the first centre of Reformation spawned in Danzig (Poland) right on the border. This effectively stops or at least greatly slows down the reformation. Another option: Declare on an ally of the nation that has a center of reformation. Also make sure your AE is low and you have manpower. The Reformation has fired and I quickly crushed all three Protestant CoR. Here's my issue: I am holding back on passing the Ewiger Landfriede reform (the HRE internal peace reform; I already have 60 IA) seeing as I can't crush reformation centres after To build imperial authority, make sure all countries within the HRE are the primary religion. Because it give your the Expand Empire CB where you can earn IA while the reformation rages on. To stop them from spreading, you need to convert the Center of Reformation provinces to other religion. You can declare on Dith marschen's allies, or on his allies' allies which you co-belligerate. Prepare for the reformation. It's there to help you counter the reformation, but the nasty part of the reformation is the super long conversion immunity on your provinces, not the actual converting back to catholic. How can i deal with it? May 31, 2019 · To start with, a good way to avoid no-cbs is to prepare before the reformation by grabbing a few plots of land here and there, so you're always able to fabricate on who you want to declare on (or their ally, at least). Advance through the reforms but don't integrate into one nation until you have nearly if not all the world. To revoke you have to crush the reformation anyway so almost all of Europe with stay Catholic. Members Online What are the forgotten regions of EU4? Playing as Lübeck, having a good run. To do this before the League War, y Oh gosh, so I thought it would be a brilliant idea to release the single province with the center of revolution as a client state. Not sure about what if any effect ante bellum has on religion, but the whole point of a centre of reformation is to quickly spread the religion. Its kinda frustrating if you just want to stay Catholic as someone else than Austria though because AI utterly incapable of dealing with a reformation that is HRE strat, Austria: focus on expanding your Empire to include all of Europe (this involves tracking the Ottomans and Iberia early) and getting the PUs from missions. Jun 20, 2019 · With religious CB you can instantly DOW any converters and potentially get rid of centers as soon as they spawn. I am the Emperor and alreday passed 4 reforms an I can pass the 5th ( Ewiger Landfriede). You have to crush any revolution that would happen in a great power country (centre). To be prepared for the reformation, stack as much CB as possible on HRE nations. Immediately upon doing so, my vassal became revolutionary and I declared war on them despite being my vassal willing to sacrifice the stability and the war exhaustion. 568 votes, 30 comments. 343K subscribers in the eu4 community. It will convert all nearby province to Protestant or Reformed depending on the Center of Reformation type. Any nation may join either league, regardless of religion, including states outside the HRE, even if they have a truce with the emperor. The Netherlands declares independence if the average autonomy is too high in the low countriesso if the Dutch are declaring independence it's BC you raised autonomy to avoid rebels or the AI didif you move your capital it stops the disasterthe other option is to accept the relevant cultures and take humanist ideas or culture convert. The ideal case is a center of reformation in a capital or in an OPM. I want to play an Austria game, not going for any specific achievements but I do want to unite the HRE. It's more common in last patch that reformation starts quite late. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by… Conquer the center of reformation and convert it. There are 2 ways of doing this. In France you can release some really nice vassals (Champagne, Orleans once integrated, Toulouse and Gasconny). Crush the Reformation and win the League wars. I want to add, don't allow princes to get too big before the reformation starts. Also funky striped flag and no need to deal with the revolution (i mostly play mix of wide and tall so end up with the empire about 6,5- 8k of own dev and over 100% absolutism so i always spawn revolution and being sieged down for 5 years to get rid of it isnt It makes it possible to delay the reformation for decades and prevents era change. The reformation has just started and I'm struggling to crush the centers of reformation. You have to constantly check the religious map mode to see when and where the centers of reformation spawn and take religious as your first or second idea so you can use the deus vult cb to instantly crush them and force religion on any prince that converted. 1. I declared war before Pomerania converted so I took the province (noob mistake, should’ve let them convert so I could change their religion in the peace deal) but now I can’t convert the province because it has religious zeal (-100% missionary strength Stopping the reformation will save you a lot of trouble with league wars, cause they don't form if there are no protestant provinces. 325K subscribers in the eu4 community. Coming to the breaking point with the Reformation. Use the age bonus to claim shit ton of provinces,dec on small low dev nations and take random provinces in the empire (you can core any where in the HRE as the Emperor). Posted by u/ToastedKoppi - 1 vote and 1 comment I am currently playing as Austria and I already crushed the Protestant centers of Reformation, and soon reformed centers of Reformation will appear. Year is currently 1496, playing as Austria. These events also stop the catholic events that typically increase reform desire. Kill all heretics. Reformation started in Riga (which, as per usual, is an OPM). Since I rate Age of Discovery over Age of Reformation, and it has absolutely no influence on the starting date of Age of Absolutism, I generally love it when reformation happens late. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game… Advertisement The goal that comes first and foremost is to remove centers of reformation. Get stability to 3 for +1. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game… To remove the Center of Revolution owned by another nation, it must be owned by a Revolution Target, and you must use the Crush the Revolution CB on the Revolution Target and enforce Crush the Revolution in the peace deal. Attack their allies and peace them out individually. If you force the country to convert religion and it's an OPM the capital province will instantly flip to Catholic, destroying the centre of reformation and preventing Protestantism and Refromed from spreading. Only issue being is that the first one spawned in Brandenburg. Not only is Brandenburg my ally, they are too big to force convert. After some time, the religious leagues will show up . As others have said, you can crush the reformation by attacking the centers of reformation as soon as they spawn. Thus you want under any circumstances smash any centers of reformation that pop up, so it doesn‘t spread too much (force religion in peace treaty). lghe ggg gdogou fdzxrh ctynctr vdh gtdw fta wqpdlq oajdaqd